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评论来自
Shotsauce
Using this paired with
普利莫修斯的狂怒护符
would be the ideal combo for a fury/arms warrior, assuming reaching hit/expertise caps is doable without needing either of those stats on trinkets.
If hit/expertise caps are being elusive, a pairing of either of the trinkets listed above with
季鹍的传说之羽
or
影踪突袭营的野蛮护符
would make more sense.
评论来自
galvin
Think this will have 3 stacks up at all times? or will they drop off. 8604 crit seems really high for a continuous stack. Unless it takes nearly a min to stack fully or something.
评论来自
rodalpho
Proc rate is as follows.
- Gaze of the Twins – 0.825*(1+MeleeCritChance) RealPPM on critical harmful abilities and spells, periodic spell, and melee/ranged abilities and swings. No ICD.
Gaze of the Twins will only proc for Str users.
Sources for quote 1:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7923993861?page=109#2169
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/8197741003
Source for quote 2:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7923993861?page=19#379
Real PPM (RPPM) description:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6893549789#1
评论来自
shadoweye404
would this mean perma crit for frost dks? :D
评论来自
smackthekids
After reading these comments and seeing the completely wrong (no offense) calculations of this trinket, then getting it in a raid tonight, seeing how bad the proc rate is, and seeing it proc on non-crit attacks in which there was no crit within a long time before after during or on DoTs... I decided to do some research. Scary what I found:
http://www.wowhuntershall.com/2013/02/14/ghostcrawler-on-trinket-and-metagem-procs-in-5-2/
Quoting from the brief article from Ghostcrawler specifically referencing Gaze of the Twins, this trinket is a flat RPPM trinket that IS NOT and HAS NO benefit from your crit % or landing critical hits. Gaining 1 stack and increasing your crit will have no effect on gaining more stacks, its pure RPPM. Before you say duh, he says
Ghostcrawler: Currently, no, the fact that it only procs on crits basically doesn’t matter for more than flavor. However, we’re considering making these multiply the proc chance by your crit chance, so that they get the “more crit = more procs” effect that all proc-on-crit trinkets have had historically
and
Ghostcrawler: Sorry for the confusion, I was indeed talking about Talisman of Bloodlust, Primordius’ Talisman of Rage, and Gaze of the Twins. They all are just RPPM random proc chances, and if the buff is already up when you get another proc, it refreshes and stacks to 2 (or 3, etc)
TLDR: This trinket is 1 RPPM, effected only by haste, and has no relation what-so-ever to your current crit and does not even proc off crit, and the fact that the description says "chance on critical hit" is only "for flavor" and procs on any hit at a rate of 1 RPPM.
This explains the horrendous uptime for getting more than 1 stack and actually having a lower chance to gain a 2nd stack than to gain your 1st stack since RPPM says "you just got a stack, your chance for another is crap" instead of assuming "based on crit, your crit increased with stack 1 so stack 2 should come faster."
Sorry for the long post! Enjoy!
UPDATE FOR 5.4:
Proc rate has been decreased even farther from its original RPPM, down to 0.72 Procs per Minute,
and Gaze of the Twins proc-rate no longer benefits from Haste
,
however
although undocumented, the proc is
now working as intended
, in that, the more frequently your attacks Critically Hit, the more opportunities for the trinket to proc. On extreme add-heavy bosses, such as Galakras, its quite easy to gain a full stack of 3 Gaze of the Twins buffs due nonstop AoE Crits on high number of adds - and - on stationary single target bosses or enemies, the trinket fluctuates, with an overall nerf from its original RPPM.
评论来自
smackthekids
Wanted to confirm, although rare, the 3rd proc CAN refresh itself with another proc within the 20 sec buff, essentially giving another full 20 seconds of 3 stacks.
Also *kind of important* any Warrior who gets this and wants to stack Haste to increase the proc rate, and allow the trinket to make up for the lost crit, or even those thinking Haste is more useful once you have this trinket, DONT DO IT.
Great way of testing haste on trinkets is Alysrazor in Fire lands where u get increasing haste buffs. Trinkets like Spark of the Zandalari get a massive proc increase from haste, allowing a nearly 100% up time with enough haste. However, Gaze of the Twins proc'ed a mere 10% more often with a rediculous Haste buff of 200% Haste during the encounter. If you managed to spec all Haste, this trinket will not save you or get much better like you may think. Almost seems broken, but it is working as intended, Blizzard really wants to make sure you can't abuse these RPPM trinkets.
评论来自
zknm7
I've had a lot better luck with procs from Primordius' Talisman of Rage than this trinket, I don't know what the deal is, but it definitely doesn't work as advertised.
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