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评论来自
RonaldRaygun
Because there's something called item budget, and the "cost" of one point of stamina is lower than the cost of the other base stats. For example:
People's exhibit A: Gems:
Strength
/
Intellect
/
Agility
Stamina
Amount of stamina present compared to the other stats: 50% more.
People's exhibit B: Ring enchants:
Strength
/
Intellect
/
Agility
Stamina
Amount of stamina present compared to the other stats: 50% more.
People's exhibit C: LW wrist enchants:
Strength
/
Intellect
/
Agility
Stamina
Amount of stamina present compared to the other stats: 50% more.
Evidently, this flask isn't as valuable to tanks as the other flasks are for healers and dps. Which is why it should be brought in line with the others by bumping it up 50%.
But that's just what I think.
Edit: Instead of just downrating, present an argument explaining why I'm wrong. I thought my suggestion was perfectly logical, but clearly some people do not, and I'm curious as to why.
评论来自
170325
This flask gives;
For DKs: 3531.6 Hp
For Paladins: 3450 Hp
For Warriors: 3450 Hp
For Druids: 4125 Hp
Consider heroic geared tanks have about 100k Hp, it really isnt that much.
However, if it got bumped to 450 stam, it would give;
For Dks: 5297.4 Hp
For Paladins: 5175 Hp
For Warriors: 5175 Hp
For Druids: 6187.5 Hp
An increase of about 2k hp, so still not that much, little more than a drop in the ocean.
评论来自
62596
I am unable to train to make this flask, it shows on wowhead as only being trainable for horde at Orgrimmar and Dalaran.
I checked Thunderbluff, Undercity, Dalaran, and Orgrimmar. No trainer has it available and I am over 500 Alchemy (Transmute spec).
Another thing I noticed is that wowhead shows that all Alliance trainers in all cities except Shattrath allow you to learn it but only Org is listed for horde yet Org trainers dont seem to have it available.
If anyone knows where Horde can train this or if it is presently bugged for Horde Alchemists if they can post a comment perhaps. My tank would really like to start using this flask for heroics.
评论来自
Zealin
With Mixology: +507 (Paladin with +15% Stamina from Touched by the Light, without: +420)
评论来自
Rednights
棱光药剂
+
大师药剂
is a very good alternative mitigation set up if you find this flask underwhelming.
评论来自
16133
地核药剂
+
大师药剂
= more EH than the steelskin flask.
评论来自
223389
I agree with both Prismatic Elixir + Elixir of the Master OR Elixir of Deep Earth + Elixir of the Master as stated above.
I understand about the loss of effect because of death but I compensate because these elixir combinations provide sustained benefit throughout the entire fight, where the +STA flask on its face only benefits near-death escapes.
评论来自
jasojase
I would love to see the flask of enhancement give even 80 stam or the 120 (number comparative to enchant ring bonus etc) but I see that developers view this as imbalanced to do so.
评论来自
midnightstar
In 4.1 this has been buffed to 450, as accorded by its stat budget.
评论来自
862991
have to agree that this flask is very underpowered.
look at the reagents it needs 8x of each, eventho the effect persists through death but i rarely find
anyone
dies 8 times unless u're in a arena or bgs so.. its better to use those reagents to make 8x elixirs instead of one flask.
this need to be buff to at least 600 stamina which i still doubt anyone would use it in a important/big fight.
评论来自
lifeslowlydies
You also have a chance of receiving this item in a
一包神秘的异域物品
. You can get the Satchel by que'ing for a Cata Heroic Dungeon by yourself only when the Dungeon Finder shows that you can get the Satchel.
评论来自
884751
So this is now better than
大地合剂
after Patch 6.0.2
评论来自
AddictedPoi
As of patch 6.0.3 the flask does indeed give 179 stamina. Just checked.
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钢皮合剂
物品等级:32
使用:
使耐力提高22点,持续1 hour。这种效果在死亡后仍可继续存在。战斗和守护药剂。
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需要等级 30
最大叠加: 200
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