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Drops from
Krik'thir the Gatewatcher
in Azjol-Nerub heroic mode
评论来自
121506
One of the best Assassination chestpieces in the game right now.
评论来自
Djuntas
Also a fine feral druid leather piece for DPS.
Edit: But keep in mind, rogues prio first over druids on it if your rogue in group needs it to imo :)
评论来自
147650
In my opinion as a feral druid, I'm going to be using Darkheart Chestguard
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44303
. There are too many times I joined a group as dps where the tank dies and I switch into bear form and use Challenging Roar, Survival Instincts, Barkskin, and Frenzied Regen to survive an encounter.
There may come a time when I can consistently get into groups I trust where I won't need the extra stam in cat or bear form and then I'll go for this one, but until then, I'm stacking agi first, then stam being close to the other stats of expertise/hit/ap/crit/haste.
评论来自
243884
Interestingly, it also happens to be the best pre-raid WotLK PvE chest for a hit capped Retribution paladin.
Using a stat weight scale from ElitistJerks:
"Ret PvE": ArmorPenetration=0.41, CritRating=0.67, Dps=5.281, Strength=1.6, Agility=0.64, ExpertiseRating=0.74, HasteRating=0.4, HitRating=1.12, Ap=0.61, MetaSocket=107 ) and setting HitRating at 0 (hit capped), I got the following:
http://www.lootrank.com/wr.asp?Cla=2&Slot=5&Max=30&Gem=3&Str=1.6&mh=0.4&dps=5.281&mcr=0.67&Agi=0.64&map=0.61&Sckm=107&arp=0.41&Exp=0.74&Ver=6&i1=0&i2=0&i3=0&i7=0&i8=0&i9=0&k1=0&k5=0&k6=0
Ironically, it got beaten by a Blacksmith-BoP from TBC with WotLK gems. :D
Still, if you are a Ret pally and don't happen to be a Blacksmith, this chest provides the best pure DPS boost if already hit capped.
评论来自
191074
Is anyone gonna say "Hunter item" ; )
评论来自
329813
To put things in perspective, compare this to the T7 Rogue Heroes' chestpiece. (And yeah, the rest of this post WILL be
Rogue-centric, because I don't know much about you Feral Druids and whoever else might want this)
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39558:
18 Agi
78 Sta
19 Armor
54 Haste
2 Sockets
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37219:
22 AP
35 Crit
45 Expertise
While Heroes' is better, it isn't by much, imo. The best part of Heroes' is probably that you can socket for hit (Keep in
mind you'll the +6 Crit bonus on the Heroe's Chestpiece if you socket for hit). There's also the matter of reaching the
expertise cap, which can be quite easy to do as a Combat Rogue with 2/2
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=30920
.
Also, Custodian's compared to
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44303:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37219:
78 Crit
45 Expertise
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44303:
32 Agi
67 Sta
19 Armor
26 AP
68 Armor Pen
Darkheart may seem a good deal better at first, but you have to remember that Armor Pen is complete crap (Well, for Rogues in PvE, at least...).
http://www.shadowpanther.net
actually gives Armor Penetration a ranking of .55 MAEP (Modified Agility Equivalence Points, look it up on the site I just linked if you don't know what it is) per point, which is very low compared to things such as Crit Rating (.8 MAEP) or Expertise Rating (.9 MAEP), both of which Custodian's specializes in.
Of course, you can't say nearly as much about armor pen in PvP as you can about it in PvE, so if you PvP a lot, or even a little on the side, Darkheart will likely be a better choice than Custodian's, especially given that Expertise isn't very good in PvP.
And there's also the lack of Stamina on Custodian's, so again, that's more than a little of an annoyance if you PvP on the side.
Short version:
Kickass Rogue PvE chestpiece. Not as good for PvP.
Edit: Remember that you may get a piece bonus from the T7 Heroe's Chestpiece. Either one would make it without a doubt beat out Custodian's.
Edit: Considering the buff to Armor Pen in 3.1.0, the Darkheart chestguard has become a lot better.
评论来自
Whipstitch
This item is a classic case study of why it's always best to look at spreadsheets and consider the sum total of all your options before selecting what to equip. This item has wonderful itemization and not a single point is spent on anything but raw dps. In a vacuum, it is easily is the best chestpiece available prior to epics and as Hoggernaut pointed out, it was not even really appreciably worse than the
Darkheart Chestguard
in terms of pure damage for a very long time. But as a combat rogue, it has never left my bank.
The problem lies in the fact that Expertise happens to be both a ludicrously common stat on quality pre-raid gear as well as the only dps stat in which it is quite plausible for a rogue (combat rogues in particular) to be easily reach the effective cap and thus gain little if any benefit from stacking more of it. Remember, as a melee dps you will be behind your target whenever possible and as such should be primarily concerned with negating the boss's dodge chance rather than wasting item budget on Expertise just to reduce parry chance. Testing indicates this dodge percentage to be around 6.5%, a total that requires only less than a 140 expertise rating after the Weapon Expertise talents to cancel. To realize just how easy this is to acquire, consider for a moment that you can hit
144
expertise rating with the
Mask of the Watcher
, and the
Mind-Expanding Leggings
alone, and that like the Custodian's Chestpiece both of those items are actually the best pound for pound raw dps gear available prior to acquiring epics. This logjam is further compounded by the fact that both of the starter crafted epics (
Trollwoven Girdle
and the
Trollwoven Spaulders
)
also
stack expertise! This is a wonderful for Assassination rogues, since without the Weapon Expertise talents their cap is 82 points higher, but as a combat rogue, you may very well find yourself better off selecting a few "worse" pieces of gear simply because much of the expertise rating would be wasted anyway.
The situation has even hit the point that as a human combat rogue with
Torment of the Banished
, I have taken to wearing the
Darkheart Chestguard
and the
Belt of Blistered Decay
simply due to the fact that even Haste and Armor Penetration outperforms wasted expertise.
评论来自
138482
I don't really understand why people value this over the darkheart chestguard, I think it's a potentially fatal error to devalue stamina over pure DPS stats, even as a rogue. I have darkheart chestguard and I greatly appreciate the extra health and armor even if my DPS stats do take a slight hit. Consider this: Even if you're behind the target a random AoE can still mess you up. I dunno, that's just me anyway.
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