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评论来自
14590
This weapon is excellent. The Master Swordsmith Lionheart Executioner has a similar proc:
LE: Chance on Hit - 100 Strength for 10 seconds.
KC: Chance on Hit - 120 Strength for 30 seconds and heal self for 270 to 450.
The KC proc is far better than the LE proc because it gives more Str, has a heal bonus, and lasts THREE times as long. Even if the chance on hit for the KC proc was 1/3 the chance of the LE proc it would still be better. Apart from the DPS difference this weapon is superior to the Lionheart weapons from Master Swordsmithing.
评论来自
TheRaven
What is the actual proc rate on the CoH heal and CoH +str
评论来自
Archangel
Had this weapon crafted about a week ago and it has since seen much combat in the Arena, soloing/ grinding, and in conventional Battlegrounds. So here is a small review;
The weapon DPS is quite nice. 108.5 is respectable. You certainly won't be replacing it for DPS until Kara or maybe a Gladitaor's weapon. That said, it's a smidgeon too fast for mosts taste. Personally, 3.3 is fine for me as the only damage you lose on hits is in the damage range. Still, a little slower would suit more people better.
+50 strength for melee classes is +100 attack power. Quite considerable. 100 attack power added on top of this makes for about 7 more DPS, so thats about 115.5 DPS with the strength included.
+37 hit rating is equal to 2.34% chance to hit at level 70. It's quite considerable, as this is roughly a third the amount you will need to never miss while raiding. Level 73 bosses take about +7% chance to hit, I believe, in order to have a 100% hit chance. After this, about 60 more hit rating and you'd be golden =)
Finally, the proc. What can I say? It is *excellent*! The rate is about 1 proc per minute, as I said before, and is extraordinarily powerful! Heals for about 350 on average and it *can critically heal*! max I have gotten is about 550 healing, which is awesome! The length of the buff is also very nice. 30 seconds means you will generally have finished the job when the buff runs out. 1 ppm with a 30 second duration means that the proc is equivilant to roughly 60 passive strength. Lookin at it in the long run, 110 strength is quite considerable =) One more thing to be wary about; the proc is a "magic" effect, meaning it can be Purged by Shaman and Priests, as well as stolen by a Mage (had that happen before =P) Be wary of such casting classes, even though they will not likely notice the buff.
A few enchantment suggestions; personally, I am going for a Savagery which yeilds +70 attack power. Other choices could be +40 spell damage for paladins or +35 agility. While the proc seems like a Crusader would be nice on this, I would highly advise against it. Crusader is an "old-world" enchantment, meaning that it degrades in power as you near 70. At level 70, it has ~40% degredation on it, both on the heal AND the strength bonus.
On crafting; I personally paid 75g per Primal Nether and an additional 20g crafting fee. This is what I expected, so I wasn't put out. It's always good to be polite and especially to offer to tip more than asked to keep on the crafters good side. After all, you are handing him nearly 1000g worth of mats and a week of grinding!
A final note; while this weapons DPS seems a little low, I would urge you to consider the fact that white DPS is not everything. Sure, you could get more stats and a little better white DPS with a Gladiator's, however in my most humle opinion, the proc is invaluable. Having this proc on you near constantly in battlegrounds makes it an awesome weapon, not to mention the fact that the heal yields great returns in the Arena where such a heal could very well save your game. I would not abandon this weapon unless I had a tier 3 blacksmithing weapon lined up =)
评论来自
51009
How can a blood elf have that armor
评论来自
50031
Got this 1 week ago, on my paladin, and Im pleased with it.
With SoCommand it eats through mobs like a hot knife through butter.
Bought mine for 2500g, and Imo, well worth it.
Like prev poster, I also switched from BS to Engi, but think Ill keep engi so I can make the new engi-goggles, some of em are real nice.
The proc itself is real nice, but havent enchanted it yet. Was thinking about Crusader, even though its only 60 Str at lvl 70.
Btw, is the proc-rate of Crusader nerfed @70?
评论来自
63013
This is an amazing weapon, It procs like crazy, personaly I would rather have that proc then 40 stam (400hp). Simply because it procs alot, ad the proc normaly heals me for more then 400. In arena's / bg's with a savagry enchant I can do insane Damage, And I take down healers fast (Paladin, Shamen, Druid, Priest whatever it is!) I would really prefer it if blizzard would take some of the Hit and add some crit, also it needs a new graphic :P.
评论来自
63356
does anyone know if the proc gets bonus healing from + heal or + dmg/heal items? it would be very good if it did for paladins as they usually have items with bonus dmg and/or heal.
i have the mats and arranged a crafter for my paladin and i'm more than excited to use this sword according to what i've heard about it.
评论来自
54798
Just to clarify an earlier post: the base version of the Lionheart Blade does not have a strength proc like this does. It does however have:
-3 str
+42 agil
+5% resistance to fear
I would love to have this as a warrior. If you have mining/alchemy you can start collecting the mats yourself and just pay someone the 300-500 for the 2 nethers and have them make one for you.
评论来自
66733
Weapon works ok for the 1200g i payed for it... Buying Mats and having it crafted but it looks really ugly other then that it works ok
评论来自
66195
to my opinion as a MS warr Lionheart sucks yes it had 5% resist but as Deathwish/Mortal strike it isnt needed i like the 250-450 chance on hit heal it works out VERRRY well for pvp yes
评论来自
66195
KC is by far better than LE beacuase mats are easy as well yea 40 agil is good but not worth the 250-450 chance on hit heal KC has
评论来自
66195
also KC has 37 hit raiting wich is ALOT of hit raiting for a wep that alone is good
评论来自
gricko
what is better this 1 or felsteel reaper?
评论来自
gricko
felsteel reaper*
评论来自
relikpl
so how does Mongoose work with KC? also flurry, has anyone tried?
评论来自
relikpl
also 2nd that on the graphic...even with vsync on full it looks so jaggedy ..eww
评论来自
72259
Any info on what this will sell at? Both with and without mats (except of course the Primal Nethers)
评论来自
relikpl
no clue, but i paid 100g per nether
is it worth throwing mongoose on this sword? its quick and i have 3/5 flurry along with MS.
thanks
评论来自
PizzaMan
Good for 2H fury. It has all the stats you need. 37 hit rating, a long lasting proc that gives you a monstrous 240 attack power (for a total of 340 before savagery), and a 3.3 speed that goes down to 2.65 or so when flurry is up.
Definitely consider this if you are fury and don't have the hit gear to support dual wielding yet.
评论来自
56071
This vs Fel Hardened Maul for paladins - which is better?
I can't choose, and I'm not a whiz with weighing out the stats...
Help out a pally in need :)
评论来自
Cr00xY
tell me plz: any1 ever tried mongoose on it? or battlemaster maybe?
评论来自
Nemil
A wonderful sword but just too damn fast, seen from perspective of a retribution paladin. Taking into account that both Crusader strike and Seal of Command, the 2 basic damage dealers in retridin's arsenal, rely on weapon's max damage, the poor damage range with this particular weapon make it a less appealing choice. This is, of course, partially addressed by higher strength stat and an excellent proc. Also, the weapon completely lacks any +crit chance/agility stat, which is so important for a retridin due to triggering vengeance stacks.
Consequently, i would always go with either Thunder or Lionheart series if being a blacksmith or alternatively
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31322
.The significantly higher max damage in the latter, combined with much more balanced stats and a very useful proc for mana users make it a superior choice in my personal opinion, especially for healing capable dps builds.
That being sad this still remains an excellent weapon and a viable option...
评论来自
Tiemujin
No, damage range still affects your instant damage. A 2h-weapon with a slower speed will *always* hit harder than 2h-weapon thats faster, assuming they have the same DPS.
Weapon normalization was put in because people would choose to use slow weapons that were *substantially* sub-par, just because of the slower weapon speed. This was a problem. Basically what they did was make your white damage using this basic equation: (DPS * weapon speed) + (AP * constant)
Before normalization, the constant in the equation was based off of the weapon speed. Now, the constant is normalized to 3.3 for 2 handers, meaning that the ONLY difference you will see in a 3.0 speed weapon and a 4.0 speed weapon, assuming the same DPS, will be the difference in damage range.
Sorry, this is wrong. The equation for instant attacks WAS:
damage = base_weapon_damage + (weapon_speed * Attack Power / 14)
it was changed to:
normalized_damage = base_weapon_damage + (X * Attack Power / 14)
Where X = 1.7 for daggers
2.4 for other one-handed weapons
3.3 for two-handed weapons
2.8 for ranged weapons
Basicly, what this means is that a 2.0 speed weapon will hit JUST as hard as a 4.0 speed weapon on normalized instant attacks. White damage will be bigger on the 4.0, but that's not what we're talking about.
评论来自
88528
"This weapon is better than Lionheart because it gives 120 strength in 30 sec, and Lionheart only gives 100 strength in 10 sec!" <<????
In my opinion Lionheart is MUCH better than Khorium Champion!
It's too fast for a warrior, and a ret paladin too.. And gives only strength, Lionheart gives agility too. If I was you, I would'nt spend much gold to buy this!
Rather get mats for a Lionheart... Or arena points for a gladiator weapon
评论来自
133294
Probably the best Ret Pally weapon in the game until SSC. Not shabby for warriors in terms of soloing given the high proc rate of the healing. All in all a good weapon, especially considering the mats won't cost you more than 600g or a few days of farming.
Crafting it on Arthas!
-Kilamda
评论来自
137851
This weapon is excellent; as an arms warrior i would say that this is a good alternative to one of the PvP two handers if you like to grind gold--not honor. Lots of strength and self heals are an excellent stat. Shame the dps is only 108.5, but it's made up for by the high speed (for a two hander). The proc is good but as it only heals for 450 at the max don't rely on it to save you from larger mobs as it doesn't prot quite THAT often. For the rest it's excellent; it doesn't look too exciting but stats are what matter. Just keep in mind that the mats are expensive (especially the primal might). All-in-all this weapon serves very well :)
评论来自
JustMax
Im Currently leveling a 70 paladin and I plan on making him a master swordsmith for wrath of the lich king. I may be talking to myself here but... how phenomenal would this weapon be with a crusader enchant. Just a thought :P Could anyone tell me if the procs stack? If they do that would be next to Amazing. Although 90% chance it will be nerfed :P
评论来自
120394
I think crusader procs less at 70 than 60, so it might not be such a great choice for an enchant
评论来自
149078
This is a terrible weapon for everyone who can equip it and should not be used. For Warriors and Paladins both, Season 1 Mace is by far a better choice, as is Stormherald. Also worthy of note, is that it's a sword, which is inferior to a mace for a warrior in any PVP situation. For PVE, you should be Dual Wielding or using a shield.
评论来自
Sabalos
I know none of the information is official or finalised yet, but based on how it currently seems they will work, this seems like it would be an excellent weapon for tanking Death Knights. Relatively quick for a 2h, it has a built-in Crusader-like effect, and hit rating is usually immensely hard to stack for tanks in general.
It's
almost
a shame the level cap is being raised beyond 70, meaning that it will probably never see much use in this kind of role :)
评论来自
ir0npanda
I used this weapon for months last year on my warrior as 2H fury spec.
They will make a new sword like this for level 80 (I hope)
评论来自
9806
If anyone still insists on using Titan's Grip come 3.0, this might not be a bad choice for DWing. The cost is a little prohibitive, but it would most likely out perform most of the other two-handers, just because of the large amount of hit rating. With Blood Craze, Bloodthirst, and the healing proc from this weapon, you would also have slightly less downtime.
评论来自
215088
I am having this made for my DK. I looked at some of the weapons in the beta and I think this weapon will last for a couple of lvls and I have a lot of mats in my bank now so it is a low cost for me to have it made :)
评论来自
vadviktor
I just have 2 of this baby on my warrior, retalented for the fun of the new Titan's Grip. I do not have a decent dps gear, still having some blue items from lvl 64-68. I have put savagery on both. Besides they look awesome, the damage they do while both has proc-ed is just insane. I got around 1900 AP when BS is on, and this goes up to 3200+ when everything fires off. Almost double.
评论来自
Erethzium
Yeah, with the added hit rating, that takes a little edge off of Titan's Grip. This should be a great weapon do duel-wield for Fury warr's :D
评论来自
Trigon
I use this as my off-hand in combo with
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33478
, and it hits HARDER then the s2 pvp mace. Plus the proc and hit rating, you cant be beat!
评论来自
312756
Can someone tell me the best way to get the plans for this weapon?
评论来自
517342
I had this a year ago and the proc rate was very good. Procced at least once a mob/fight. Now after coming back from in activity it's proc rate seems to have turned for the worst... sometimes not proccing after 10 mobs/fights.
Anyone else notice this? Blizz if you changed the proc rate you stink >:(
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