评论来自 jjanchan

This item can be pickpocketed by 潜行者s in the Broken Isles. When turned in to 马林·诺格弗格, you will gain access to the Uncrowned Vault within the Order Hall, which can net you some interesting treasures. Note that you MUST train 大殿 Order Hall Advancement upgrade in order to pickpocket these coins!

马林·诺格弗格的幸运硬币 is particularly helpful when gunning for the Subtlety Rogue hidden Artifact Weapon appearance (异界剧毒大全), as you can use it to access the vault multiple times per week (unlike the Order Hall Upgrade listed below, which allows you to access it only once per week).

马林·诺格弗格 can be found in the 潜行者 Order Hall, the 暗影大厅. He is the famous creator of the 诺格弗格药剂!

There is one other way to obtain access to the Uncrowned Vault:

If you train 大殿, the Tier 2 Order Hall Upgrade in 暗影大厅, you sometimes obtain a 宝库赠品券 on successful completion of an Order Hall mission. This gives you access to the Uncrowned Vault within the 暗影大厅, when turned into 马林·诺格弗格.

Note that you can only turn in a 宝库赠品券 once per week!

NOTE: If you have sent 马林·诺格弗格 (the champion/follower) on an Order Hall mission, he will not appear (to allow you to turn in your ticket/coin) until the mission has completed!

The Uncrowned Vault contains various interesting treasures! All items are only usable in the Broken Isles.

Each time you access the vault, you will get to choose between a number of different (random) treasures. These will have a purple glow around them in the vault. Choose wisely! You only get to keep ONE object.

Note that the treasures available rotate at certain times - this may be daily or multiple times a day. As such, if you are looking for something in particular, try again on a subsequent attempt, but don't be surprised if the options are the same on back-to-back attempts.
Some users have reported that if they DO NOT loot anything in the Vault, they can keep coming back day after day (indefinitely), checking the treasures for that day in the vault. Apparently this can be done until something is looted.

Some of the items you can obtain are listed below - many are consumable items, but there is also a Toy:

- often contains gold.
无冕者迅影罩帽 - BoE purple cosmetic hood and mask. This can sometimes be looted from the .
淬毒飞刀 (8 charges) - similar to Sap, but with a longer range. Ideal for mobs with stealth detection.
一袋战斗药水 (4 charges) - grants a random 30-minute buff, from among any of the following:

瓦莉拉的狡诈药水 - +10% critical strike chance
陶矢的速度药剂 - +15% haste
苔丝的敏捷滋补剂 - +5% agility
乔拉齐的战斗药剂 - +15% critical strike damage
迦罗娜的闪避药剂 - +20% dodge chance
特塞斯的无尽能量药水 - generate 5 energy every 2 seconds

冒烟的靴子 - grants an additional 15% movement speed while stealthed. Lasts 1 hour.
菊花茶 (10 charges) - restores 100 energy.
烟雾弹 (10 charges) - acts the same as 消失, but does not put 消失 on cooldown.
黏性炸弹 (5 charges) - puts down an AoE bomb that does damage (similar to Engineering bombs of old).
失窃的神器传说大典 - grants 200 (base) Artifact Power to your equipped weapon.
可疑的箱子 - Toy that disguises you as a crate.

Subtlety Rogue Hidden Artifact Weapon Appearance

The Uncrowned Vault is the way to obtain the hidden Subtlety 潜行者 Artifact Appearance via 异界剧毒大全. See the spoiler tags below for details!

The steps to obtaining the Venombite weapon appearance for Subtlety Rogues is as follows:

As outlined above, you will need to gain access to the Uncrowned Vault via one of the two methods.
Within the Uncrowned Vault, you can find a Satchel of Keys, apparently visible on a pillar within the vault. This contains 雷神宫殿钥匙 (reportedly multiple keys).
Speak to 陶矢 at the bottom level of the Order Hall to start the 雷电堡 scenario. 1 雷神宫殿钥匙 is required for each attempt of this scenario.

This is the exact same scenario that was available during Mists of Pandaria.
Complete the scenario (reaching the end, or until the timer runs out) looting chests and obtaining as many 陪葬品钥匙s as possible.
陪葬品钥匙s can be obtained from:

金色宝箱 (Large Treasure Chests) – 20% drop rate
魔古宝箱 (Small Treasure Chests) – 12% drop rate
Dropped by 邪刃抢掠者 who will spawn from treasure chests in the second room. When spawning, they will stun you and attempt to escape before being killed. Pre-emptive CC (e.g. 冰霜符文陷阱, which can be purchased in the initial preparation room of the scenario for 长者的好运符) can ensure he doesn’t get too far away. 100% drop rate for 陪葬品钥匙.
Dropped by 巨灵神古尔坎 at the very end of the scenario (if you reach there before time is up). 100% drop rate for 陪葬品钥匙.
Rewarded by “赤烟”腾武 at the very end of the scenario. If you reach him before the timer is up and speak to him to end the scenario, you get an extra 陪葬品钥匙.

Use the 陪葬品钥匙s to open the 雷神的陪葬品s at the rest area after completing the scenario. These chests have a chance to contain 异界剧毒大全, which unlocks the hidden appearance!

评论来自 kodikun

Turned one of these in to Marin today and was told to take an item from the vault... only there was nothing for me to take. Has anyone else had this problem?

EDIT: As Speon pointed out down below, it appears you must first turn in a Vault Ticket before Marin's rewards will show up for coins. Likely a bug, will be reporting.

EDIT EDIT: It appears you have to turn in a new ticket EACH DAY in order to turn in coins again (Thanks Reddit!) otherwise you will not be able to loot anything. Hopefully this bug gets fixed soon, I recommend everyone reports it!

评论来自 1211734

If anyone else is confused like I was as to how this works: When you turn in the coin, or the voucher, a random treasure around the rooom will become Lootable (Purple Glow). Look around and you'll find it. I turned in a coin and a voucher and couldn't figue out what to do. Eventually I noticed a set of keys with the purple outline hanging on a wall. Clicked them and got 3x Key to the Palace of Lei Shen. There was also a set of bombs to loot. So it does seem that these stay active for a while until you loot them. Turning in the coin and the voucher were probably a few hours apart.

评论来自 Kyok

Pickpocketed mine from 恐惧投叉手 during The Dreadblades artifact scenario.

评论来自 Darkr3nder

So I successfully turned in the coin 2 times. But every time I could only see/loot 3 items. Thistle Tea, Some bombs and a Small coil chest which gives gold. But nowhere in the room I saw the keys. I checked the walls, the floor, even did Alt-z so the loot shines. But nothing. Any suggestions?

评论来自 Wanderingfox

These are not subject to the weekly limit like the vault ticket is. I was able to use two coins so far this week.

评论来自 Rvolner

Is it possible that the items available to be looted change per day/week? I can only see bombs. boots. thistle tea. A
aand vanishing powder. Crate and keys are no where to be found.

评论来自 PokerKing

NEED MORE INFO ABOUT THE COIN!

im pickpocketing everybody on the broken isles for the paste 3 days...

not a single coin was found!

评论来自 codai

just got one from a feltotem warmonger in highmountain.

评论来自 TCHJ3K

Important point to note: If you loot the Sparking Set of Keys first, you can still choose another "proper" prize. The coin is also unique, but there doesn't appear to be a limit on how many you can loot each week, so make sure you turn each one in ASAP after you loot it.

评论来自 Happyparoxysm

If you can't find Marin Noggenfogger sitting on his pile of coins, then it is likely that he's been sent out on a mission! When he is your follower, sending him on missions seems to make him unavailable. When I completed the mission he was on he didn't appear right away. He arrived in his usual spot within a couple minutes.

评论来自 thebl4ckd0g

Read comments here, before turning in my token, figured I'd see something. But sadly after walking around for 30 mins., nothing has a purple glow or purple outline or anything in here, so I submitted a bug report ingame. :(

评论来自 CBergman

Tip when farming the coins:

If you have unlocked Suramar, use your Masquerade-buff to make guards non-hostile, then stealth around and pick their pockets.

评论来自 1697944

Guys im curently looting the key in the vault... and it is respawning! i have 30 so far after 5-10 secs it respawns so keep looting it

评论来自 PokerKing

Confirmed.

If you do not have the Vault ticket upgrade in your class Hall, you will NOT be able to pickpocket these coins.

sadly.

评论来自 nunopesce10

Looted 2 coins today, when i gave them to Marin has no items to loot in the treasure room.

评论来自 Machionette

I'm new to this kind of stuff but it might be helpful. I personally pickpocket the gilnean forces which you need to kill as Horde for the pvp world quest. Once I pickpocketed everyone I usually have a coin or two. Sometimes I have to kill a few of the gilnean troops to make the respawn. But I get at least about 5 coins every hour there.

I farm them at the point above Stormtorn Foothills in Stormheim. Worked out prettty well so far. I DID finish the vault ticket quest first before farming the coins. I don't know if that's needed

EDIT: I just did the vault ticket quest again after a week and the rewards changed accordingly. However, I did turn in the coin first with no rewards. I can hereby confirm that you have to turn in the vault ticket weekly first BEFORE you turn in the coin or it just doesn't come up with rewards.

评论来自 Xastral

Well its Confirmed.You cannot get Coin if u do not have the Vault Ticket upgrade ( So far everybody on this Forums and ingame that i have talked say the same thing and i have over 8 hour farm and none (without the vault ticket upgrade)

评论来自 MUHKehrin

Twice now I have gotten nothing from turning the coin in. I have the Vault update, and have successfully received loot from the Coin before.

Is there really no time limit or is this just a bug ?

评论来自 ExtremeDf

I have handed in the ticket plus multiple coins and have yet to see the Keys appear. So I am kinda confused whatever I am missing something.

评论来自 Xastral

Does anybody know if there is a Rotation about the item Spawning or im just unlucky did 20 coin and alway Bomb/Tea/Smoke/boots

评论来自 Graileon

So after having issues two separate times turning in and 2 separate GM tickets, this was the final response I got from Blizzard (P.S. such a waste of time) *Edit* I had turned in 2 tickets and a total of 5 coins after them and only received rewards for the tickets*

This is Game Master Strybur. Following the launch of Legion Customer Support has received quite a large number of contacts. In an effort to help as many people as possible you might find this response to be a bit more brief than normal. We highly appreciate your time, patience, and understanding throughout this launch as we continue our efforts in reducing our ticket wait times.

With this in mind, let's get right down to it. After a review of your ticket it appears that the bug being reported is a known issue that we are currently aware of. As of right now we don't have an ETA as to when this will be resolved but we are working diligently to get this working as soon as possible.

I did hop on your character to do some additional testing and get the extra details forwarded on. Likewise, if you come across any other examples, please continue to "Submit Bug" reports on those. As soon as we get any updates or workarounds, we'll post them on our Bug Report Forum and website over at us.battle.net. In the interim, there isn't much else we can do in this case.

Here are some links to the fansites as well in case the community comes up with unofficial workarounds in the interim.

马林·诺格弗格的幸运硬币/marin-noggenfoggers-lucky-coin#comments

宝库赠品券

I know that this isn't the answer you were looking for but highly appreciate your time and patience while this is being looked into.

Thank you for your time, patience, and understanding my friend.

To review your ticket, please follow the link above. If your issue has been addressed, you'll be able to resolve the ticket. If the issue is not yet resolved, you can file a response with additional information.

If you do not resolve the ticket or provide any further response within one week, the ticket will be resolved automatically and you'll receive a final update via email.

评论来自 hopechild

Hey guys!

So you get this thing from pickpocketing mobs on the broken isles when u have the vault ticket thing in your hall learned :)

Then you bring it to Marin Noggenfogger to get a reward. They vary.
I'd suggest take the keys until u have the hidden appearance for your sub weapon then try out whatever u like.
Some of them are just helpfull, fun or combat boosts.

just talked to a GM.
It's intentional that you don't get something everytime!

He said Noggenfogger is... a rogue :D

You might get useless stuff sometimes too...

评论来自 psipress

The way this is bugged is weird. Or maybe its suppose to be this way, but I doubt it.

Don't bother turning a coin in unless you have a ticket.

Once you turn in a ticket, choose your loot. Once you have looted an item from the ticket, then you talk to Marin and turn in your coin. At that point items spawn again, and you loot an item. Go out and get another coin, turn it in, more loot shows up. You can do this endlessly in a single day period.

The catch for this is the ticket turn in expires every day. They changed the ticket turn in so you can do it once a day instead of once a week. So that means, if you get another coin days later, if you try to turn it in nothing will spawn. UNLESS, you turn in a ticket first.

They should have kept it exactly the way it was. One ticket a week, and as many coins as you find during that weekly period. OR, make the coins not unique.

评论来自 Xastral

Today Rotation have Key in it (Sargeras-us)

评论来自 Sugarbjorn

A special reminder for all of you. If Marin Noggenfogger is on a mission you can't turn in your coin.

评论来自 RASProductions

For anyone trying to get these faster/more easily, I use macros for my stealth abilities that have pick pocket included, so I automatically pick anything I engage from stealth. I currently have it on Shadowstep, Sap, Cheap Shot, and Mutilate. (You'll need auto loot on of course.)

#showtooltip (Chosen skill, no parenthesis)
/cast Pick Pocket
/cast (Chosen skill, no parenthesis)

You can omit the first line, however putting it in the macro and using the original icon makes it look like the original unchanged skill, but with a free instant pickpocket.

An example macro would look like as follows:
#showtooltip Ambush
/cast Pick Pocket
/cast Ambush

Also, oddly enough, this frequently causes your disguise, from the glyph if you have it, to not fall off upon entering combat with your target.

Happy hunting

评论来自 ifeelikepanda

so i have the vault order advancement and the vault ticket.. i got the coins i needed legit like the first 2 or 3 pick pockets in surumar city and for the last 3 days for w.e reason i have been pick pocketing for countless hrs trying to get another coin (i tried other humanoids in different broken isle zones) and i just cant seem to get one. Am i missing something or was there maybe a rng nerf on the coin drop ?

评论来自 ShanksGonnaShank

I obtained my vault ticket on Saturday. It gave me a choice to obtain 雷神宫殿钥匙.

AFTER GETTING THIS I WENT AND PICKPOCKETED FOR 马林·诺格弗格的幸运硬币 THE COIN LETS YOU PICK ANOTHER ITEM FROM THE VAULT. I THEN PICKED UP THE KEY AGAIN. FOR ALL WHO DO NOT KNOW IF YOU GIVE THE KEY TO 陶矢. You'll be directed to the single player scenario. The scenario has a chance to drop the Subtlety's hidden appearance.
This is a loophole to obtain multiple keys if you do not get it the first time.(##RESPBREAK##)2##DELIM##Sas148##DELIM##

评论来自 Railguy

As of today, 10/24, nearly 2 months into the expansion, this is STILL bugged. It won't let you pick a reward unless you turn in a vault ticket right before it. Hopefully they fix this in 7.1, but its still incredibly disappointing for such a big bug to be around for so long.

评论来自 Vifor

I risked one 马林·诺格弗格的幸运硬币 today without turning in a Vault Ticket first. And surprise, I goot loot (I picket a 雷神宫殿钥匙). So it got fixed. FINALLY.
Too bad that the "find" rate for 马林·诺格弗格的幸运硬币 it seems to have been reduced at the same time. Maybe is just my impression, or maybe is just another of the Blizzard's famous "is now working as originally intended"™.
And of course, there is not a word of any of those changes in the patch notes.

Update:

From what I have seen so far, the loot changes daily. Aka if you get some loot you do not want is pointless to retry in the same day, you will get the same loot over and over for both 马林·诺格弗格的幸运硬币 and Vault Ticket turn-ins.
The loot seems to differ for each character, some ppl might get lucky, others might not. You might even end up with same loot several days in a row. It happened to me.

评论来自 uvsmile

i didnt get any quest notification even so i gave it to him. a vanishing powder appeared on the floor. just go give it to him.

评论来自 216531

I've only ever had the coin bug out when I tried to turn it in right after Marin got back from a mission. Solution: leave the hall and come back before giving him the coin. Works every time, no vault ticket needed.

评论来自 ZombieEris

ITs not stated on the npc it can be pick pocketed from but the Risen Assassins in Val'Sharah, (the Bradens Brook area) I was on the quest Children of the Night and the others along with it, and i was pick pocketing the mobs and one dropped, came here looking what it was for. I had the hall talent set to the vault and it finished as after i logged on (not sure if that had anything to do with it dropping or not)

评论来自 Tequima

Summarising some of the information in the above posts and on other threads:
Vault tickets and Lucky Coins

马林·诺格弗格 has a chance to return from a mission with a 宝库赠品券. You can choose the class hall option 大殿 for all missions to have an extra chance to return with a ticket. You can use a ticket once a day (previously weekly). If you use the App to complete missions, the ticket (if won) should be in your bags when you log in.
If you pick-pocket 马林·诺格弗格的幸运硬币, then you can ONLY turn this in to 马林·诺格弗格 if both (a) you have redeemed a vault ticket today and (b) Marin isn't currently on a mission. You can turn in multiple coins a day. The coins are unique, so you have to return to the vault after each successful pickpocket to redeem them.
Marin will take ALL the tickets in your inventory. If you are lucky to get more than one, put the rest in your bank.
You can only loot one item per ticket. Choose with care. They've fixed most of the exploits that allowed multiple loots per attempt.

Potential Loot
To add to jjanchan'ts list, your priority to loot will probably be:

Sparkling Keys (on the pillar to the left of where you enter the vault) - 雷神宫殿钥匙 - chance for Subtlety Rogue hidden appearance (start scenario by handing in to 陶矢, loot as many burial trove keys as possible in the time limit)
(on top of the mat in front of Marin) - 可疑的箱子 - toy
(between Marin and the artefact upgrade section) - gold or 无冕者迅影罩帽
失窃的神器传说大典 (on the right as you enter the vault) - 失窃的神器传说大典 200 (level 0) to 50,000 (level 25) artefact power to your currently equipped weapon (not to the "targeted weapon" indicated in the tool tip)
Other items such as - 淬毒飞刀

Outlaw Rogue's 寻找财宝 ability will show what treasures are up on the mini-map. Most of the flavour items are only usable on the Broken Isles, i.e. not in instances such as dungeons, raids and battlegrounds. The list of items changes daily, so if you get the option for Sparkling Keys, it's time to farm coins!

评论来自 schmilblick

How to farm the keys correctly as i did :

As far as i know, 雷神宫殿钥匙 from Marin Noggenfogger treasures only drop from and you can find up to three keys per loot. one loot per coin.

- Wait for Sparking Set of Keys spawn day to start farming coins.
- Take a movement speed buff / potion
- Realmhopping addon
- Pickpocket mouseover macro

/stopattack
/cast Pick Pocket
/cleartarget

- the best spot to farm those is Suramar with the disguise, 45.76, a crowded place with the just one stealth braking guard.
- if you are too lucky farming the coin and your HS is on colldown, don't forget to use the WOD one

Do not start the scenario until you get enough keys to not lose your time, they stack to 100, so take you time.

评论来自 Cr00xY

OK, I pickpocket all the time, I have the trait researched long ago, and I have NEVER got any of these coins? Have they changed something or what's the deal actually? All I ever get is small amount of copper :/

评论来自 Mogster1234

How lucky can it really be if he keeps losing it?

评论来自 Shaliran

People here say that the coin should be returned after a ticket is redeemed. However, handing in the ticket, then the coin will NOT give you any more choices or loot chances than the ticket alone. So, returning the coin after a ticket makes you lose the coin as well. I don't know if this item is of any use and in what order it should be used to actually work.

评论来自 Telanore

Turned this in on tuesday evening (around 22:00-ish) and didn't find the Keys for the Subtlety artifact skin. Decided to wait until the following day (after server restarts, EU servers), and could no longer pick up an item. Don't know if this is purely due to the server restarts, or if you have a limited time to pick up your item.

评论来自 sarphog

ATTENTION

Do NOT try to pickpocket random mobs in hopes to get this item without having The Vault perk in your class order hall.

I tried farming for the coin for hours without getting it, and the literal first pickpocket after I got the perk, I had this item drop for me. I can't confirm that you need the perk to get it, but I find it highly suspicious that it decided to drop so quickly after changing my perks.

评论来自 LiriellGarrosh

My rogue finished The Vault class hall upgrade earlier today (08/16/17) and pickpocketed 2 coins (got 1, turned it in, picked keys, went out and got another coin, turned it in, picked keys again) without having received or turned in a Vault Ticket. After finishing the second mission in Throwing SI:7 Off the Trail, I got a Vault Ticket. I'm wondering if I should save the Vault Ticket until tomorrow, or if it is no longer necessary for the coin turn-ins.

评论来自 Valexena

Just pickpocketed one from a Felsworn Adept on the Isle of the Watchers.

评论来自 Ouroborouspriest

I always pickpocket around greywatch and runewood in Stormheim. Anyways I tend to finish groups even after I get my coin, if you find another coin but cant loot it because it is unique you can turn your coin in and go back and loot the other coin from the same mob. Tested this out quite a few times tonight as I was farming up about 30 keys for the hidden sub appearance.

评论来自 Eighjan

Something tells me that these can disappear from your bags while logged out; sent Marin on a mission that lasted a good while & pickpocketed a Coin while he was 'out'. Logged back in the next day, after Mission had finished to find no coin in my bags... not sure if these coins are considered 'Conjured', but if not something about them must make them disappear.

评论来自 shamster

Apparently if you already have a coin in your inventory, and you pickpocket a mob who also has it, it stays on the mob until you've looted it. I pickpocketed a coin, found another, ported to hand it in, and returned to continue. I found another coin, and when I came to the previous mob that had it, it was still there.

评论来自 Gordolfo

You are supposed to loot from the vault you are in. If you are clueless like me, you don't notice the shiny loot, then log out, and then lose your loot.

评论来自 MoarHeroisms

Like money? I like money. If that's all you want, I recommend these rewards:

1) contains copper BUT ALSO an 无冕者迅影罩帽 which can be auctioned for between 2k and 10k.
2) lets you queue for a brief treasure scenario yielding more gold depending on effort (mindless looting got me 200) plus some MoP-related goodies.
3) And if you just want easy money, 失窃的神器传说大典 vendors for 25 gold.

评论来自 zerent

I've began farming Marin Noggenfogger's Lucky Coin. I've made sure that I've built the Vault but still there's no drops and I've pickpocketed/killed close to 200 mobs which have fairly high droprate.

Something must be wrong. Anyone here have any idea?

评论来自 Swimmed

The suramar mobs have the highest pickpocket drop rate for these in my experience as of 9.1.5 Make sure to have The Vault unlocked and Marin Noggenfogger NOT on a mission.

评论来自 Magicos

I was farming Bindings of the Windlord from Dargrul in the dungeon Neltharion's Lair (normal) and started pickpocketing for the fun of it. First run dropped 2 coins, second run dropped 1 coin, third run dropped 3 coins. Too bad you can't hold more than 1 at a time.

评论来自 Penaloppe

So for everyone sanity, and a note to my future self, I had to farm 66k 空气硬币 (with the 烁光的阿尔阿巴斯之灯) before seeing a single 马林·诺格弗格的幸运硬币 today.

Be sure to have 大殿 Hall Upgrade, but don't give up.

评论来自 Incrediblz

I literally Have on on me while I have this NPC on a mission and doing some Broken Shore World quests and I have had 5 drop in one area. Why arent they stackable or even bettersent to your mail. I can only imagine how many of these got lost to the Ether for that reason.I will keep suggestion them to be changed to a Unique 5/10/20 stack max and Hopefully blizzard does something. Even though legion is old content they can still fix all the bad choices such as this.

评论来自 KrakenLatte

Started to farm these so I can get the key rings and finish the "In the Hall of the Thunder King" achievement. Older comments stated you could loot the keys again the same day by turning in multiple coins.

However, after looting the keys once and then farming a coin and turning that in, the keys were no longer there (yes it was in the same day too)! Anyone else finding this? Is this really a change they made or did mine just glitch out?

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