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MoP - Do your dailies effectively
来自 Werich
[Last Updated]:
2018/03/20
补丁:5.4.0
目录
评分:
1. Introduction
This guide is supposed to provide an overview of daily quests in Pandaria considering the time requirements for each daily quests hub. It is trying to find an optimal route to avoid wasting your play time during a daily quests routine. Data for this guide have been gathered on the Alliance side, but most of them can be used for Horde questing as well (mount flight timers may need a small adjustment). The guide is up-to-date as of
patch 5.4, September 11th, 2013
.
1.1 Who can and who cannot benefit from this guide
I wrote this guide for a little bit experienced players who already know the Pandaria environment, are familiar with all the factions and are looking for an optimization of their daily work. Fresh 90's, which just started dailies in Pandaria, can benefit from another great
guide
, posted by
Calesta
.
Also, players who think about doing dailies for gold should read the brilliant
guide
by
Lazorbeam
, as the dailies are not the best choice for farming the gold.
Last but not least: this guide does not provide any reputation advices to save some space as well as the reader's time. There is a reputation
guide
by
perculia
that provides a great overview of all reputations you may need.
1.2 About this guide and your feedback
Since this is my very first guide I have ever written, you may find some inconsistencies or even mistakes within the text. In such case, I would kindly ask you to leave a comment (constructive if possible) and I will update the text accordingly. I am not a native speaker so there may be some grammar issues too: please be patient with me :-)
1.3 How to handle the information in this guide
As you probably know, each faction has a "set" of dailies which change from day to day. Thus it is nearly impossible to provide 100% accurate data, especially for the "time needed" value. There are also many factors that affect your own experience: your gear level, current population, mount speed and many others. However, the gathered data can still be useful - all we need is simply to compare the average values. If you know that you need 7 minutes for one archeology quest and during the very same time you can do 4 dailies for August Celestials, you know which way to go.
To make the benchmark easier for you, here come the values of the character I used to gather the data:
Destruction warlock, ilvl 502, Alliance
Flight speed 310%
2. Pandaria dailies
Daily quest reward:
Number of daily quests: 1
Total money reward:
Total valor reward: 5
勇气点数
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 1
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 7 minutes
Time efficiency:
Bad
Getting there (mount flight timer):
From Shrine of Seven Stars: 0:24
Comment:
Archeology is a bad choice in all ways. You just spend too much time flying and making a survey. Not worthy.
Ms. Thai
Daily quests rewards:
Number of daily quests: 5*
Total money reward:
Total valor reward: 5
勇气点数
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 0
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 9 minutes
Time efficiency:
Good
Getting there (mount flight timer):
From Anglers Wharf: 1:30
From Cradle of Chi-Ji: 0:35
From Halfhill: 1:50
From Klaxxi'Vess: 1:10
From Shrine of Two Moons: 2:15
Comment:
Another good spot for dailies. Do not forget to use portals when questing in Lion's Landing / Ruins of Ogudei.
* There are also other daily quests available at
奥格罗姆·黑牙
for 30x
统御岗哨委任状
. Unfortunately, those quests are extremely time inefficient and should be avoided at all costs.
Domination Point
Lion's Landing
Ruins of Ogudei
Daily quests rewards:
Number of daily quests: 5 (see the comment below)
Total money reward:
Total valor reward: 5
勇气点数
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 0
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 7 minutes
Time efficiency:
Good
Getting there (mount flight timer):
From Klaxxi'Vess: 0:45
From Shado-Pan Garrison: 1:25
From Shrine of Seven Stars: 0:55
From Temple of the White Tiger: 1:40
From The Arboretum: 2:35
Comment:
As of patch 5.4, there are only 6 Golden Lotus dailes available now. However, it is strongly recommended to omit the quest in Guo-Lai Halls (usually
雷电
or
破败的大厅
) as it is extremely time inefficient. That's why the table contains data for the other five dailies only.
Setting Sun Garrison
Kelari Featherfoot
Daily quests rewards:
Number of daily quests: 12
Total money reward:
Total valor reward: 0
勇气点数
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 0
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 33 minutes
Time efficiency:
Bad
Getting there (mount timer):
From Shado-Pan Garrison: 0:13
Comment:
PvE dailies on the Isle of Thunder are (quite surprisingly) bad choice for all those who want to stay time effective. Some quests are really time consuming (especially the finale after Iron mines).
Beast Pens
Conqueror's Terrace
Court of Bones
Dawnseeker Promontory (Horde)
Ihgaluk Crag
Violet Rise (Alliance)
Za'Tual
Daily quests rewards:
Number of daily quests: 8
Total money reward:
Total honor/conquest reward: 5
0
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 9
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 11 minutes
Time efficiency:
Good
Getting there (mount timer):
From Shado-Pan Garrison: 0:13
Comment:
If you are after lesser charms and/or gold, this is your star. There is a catch however: if you experience too many PvP enemies in the area, questing here may become much slower. I guess you have to try and see, if this is worthy for you or not.
Dawnseeker Promontory (Horde)
Violet Rise (Alliance)
Daily quests rewards:
Number of daily quests: 5*
Total money reward:
Total valor reward: 5
勇气点数
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 0
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 9 minutes
Time efficiency:
Good
Getting there (mount flight timer):
From Anglers Wharf: 0:35
From Halfhill: 1:10
From Shrine of Seven Stars: 1:35
From Temple of Jade Serpent: 1:20
From The Arboretum: 1:40
Comment:
Another good spot for dailies. The only disadvantage may be the location: since there is no other good dailies hub around, you will need to invest some time to fly there only for those five quests.
* There are also other daily quests available at
普凡迪特·格兰特利
for 30x
统御岗哨委任状
. Unfortunately, those quests are extremely time inefficient and should be avoided at all costs.
Domination Point
Lion's Landing
Ruins of Ogudei
Daily quests rewards:
Number of daily quests: 3*
Total money reward:
Total valor reward: 5
勇气点数
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 3
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 4+ minutes
Time efficiency:
Bad
Getting there (mount flight timer):
From Lion's Landing: 1:40
From Shrine of Seven Stars: 1:45
From Temple of the Jade Serpent: 0:30
From Temple of the White Tiger: 2:05
From The Golden Pagoda: 2:05
Comment:
The problem with those dailies is that one day you can get easy and fast quests and the other day the quests are just painful and slow (
海上魔王
). In any case, the lowered Lesser charm reward and long flight path make this hub pretty bad.
* Professions dailies have not been included as they reward neither valor nor charms.
The Arboretum
Daily quests rewards:
Number of daily quests: 5
Total money reward:
Total valor reward: 5
勇气点数
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 0
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 11 minutes
Time efficiency:
Average
Getting there (mount flight timer):
From Halfhill: 2:20
From Klaxxi'Vess: 1:10
From Shrine of Seven Stars: 2:20
From Temple of the White Tiger: 2:15
From The Golden Pagoda: 1:50
Comment:
Just an average spot. Sometimes you get lucky and get the faster quests, sometimes vice versa. Low-geared players may have problems with quests like
大螳螂妖来了……
.There can be a good synergy effect if The August Celestials - Niuzao Temple is running that day.
Shado-Pan Garrison
Daily quests rewards:
Number of daily quests: 3*
Total money reward:
Total valor reward: 5
勇气点数
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 3
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 7 minutes
Time efficiency:
Bad
Getting there (mount flight timer):
From Cradle of Chi-Ji: 1:00
From Halfhill: 0:50
From Klaxxi'Vess: 2:10
From Lion's Landing: 0:35
From Shrine of Seven Stars: 1:30
Comment:
Far-away location, lowered Lesser charms reward, high time-consumption. Bad option, unless you have any good reason to be here (like leveling your Fishing).
* You can also fish another daily with fishing. However, doing so would significantly decrease the time efficiency of this hub (which is bad enough already).
Anglers Wharf
General comment:
All The August Celestial's dailies are very efficient, with the Temple of the White Tiger as a winner. You should always consider adding the current The August Celestials dailies hub into your route.
Daily quests rewards:
Number of daily quests: 5
Total money reward:
Total valor reward: 5
勇气点数
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 0
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 6 minutes
Time efficiency:
Good
Getting there (mount flight timer):
From Shado-Pan Garrison: 2:15
From Shrine of Seven Stars: 1:30
From The Arboretum: 2:05
From The Golden Pagoda: 1:20
Comment:
The most time effective dailies in the whole Pandaria.
力量火炬
may require some practice, though.
Temple of the White Tiger
Daily quests rewards:
Number of daily quests: 4
Total money reward:
Total valor reward: 0
勇气点数
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 8
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 6 minutes
Time efficiency:
Good
Getting there (mount flight timer):
From Halfhill: 1:45
From Lion's Landing: 1:20
From Shrine of Seven Stars: 1:40
From The Arboretum: 0:30
Comment:
The spot itself is very good one, but a disadvantage here is the location. You can complete it together with Operation: Shieldwall, but then you will probably need to go back to Shrine of Seven Stars.
Temple of the Jade Serpent
Daily quests rewards:
Number of daily quests: 4
Total money reward:
Total valor reward: 0
勇气点数
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 8
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 6 minutes
Time efficiency:
Good
Getting there (mount flight timer):
From Shado-Pan Garrison: 0:25
Comment:
A very good spot, also making the Shado-Pan dailies more attractive (you can save some travel time at least). A small tip: you can use your companion from Shado-Pan dailies to help you with The August Celestials dailies and only then complete the Shado-Pan dailies. With a better gear, however, you probably won't feel any difference anyway.
Niuzao Temple
Daily quests rewards:
Number of daily quests: 4
Total money reward:
Total valor reward: 0
勇气点数
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 8
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 7 minutes
Time efficiency:
Good
Getting there (mount flight timer):
From Anglers Wharf: 1:00
From Halfhill: 1:10
From Klaxxi'Vess: 1:35
From Shrine of Seven Stars: 1:45
Comment:
Similar to Temple of the Jade Serpent, the spot is a very good one, but in a bad location. Probably the best way would be to continue with Klaxxi dailies.
Cradle of Chi-Ji
Daily quests rewards:
Number of daily quests: 8*
Total money reward:
Total valor reward: 0
勇气点数
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 6
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 15 minutes
Time efficiency:
Good
Getting there (mount flight timer):
From Anglers Wharf: 2:10
From Cradle of Chi-Ji: 1:35
From Halfhill: 1:30
From Shado-Pan Garrison: 1:10
From Shrine of Seven Stars: 1:40
Comment:
Very good place for dailies. To improve your effectiveness, you may try to omit the
冲撞机器
/
黑暗天空
quests, as they both seem to be quite time consuming.
* Beside the basic 8 daily quests you may also sometimes get a drop quest, which makes this hub even better.
Klaxxi'Vess
Daily quests rewards:
Number of daily quests: 5
Total money reward:
Total valor reward: 5
勇气点数
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 5
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 8 minutes
Time efficiency:
Average
Getting there (mount flight timer):
From Anglers Wharf: 0:50
From Cradle of Chi-Ji: 1:10
From Klaxxi'Vess: 1:30
From Lion's Landing: 1:10
From Shado-Pan Garrison: 2:20
From Shrine of Seven Stars: 0:45
From Temple of the Jade Serpent: 1:45
Comment:
If you are after valor and/or gold, this is nice spot for you. It is close from Shrine of Seven Stars and quests are easy and fast. Unfortunately, the Lesser charm reward is lower and therefore not so time efficient for most players.
Halfhill
Daily quests rewards:
Number of daily quests: 2
Total money reward:
Total valor reward: 0
勇气点数
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 2
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 3+ minutes
Time efficiency:
Bad
Getting there (mount flight timer):
From Halfhill: 0:05
Comment:
Apparently, the Work Orders are good for reputation hunt only. There is no valor reward, only minimum Lesser charm reward and it also prevents you to use your farm for other (more useful) plants.
Work Orders
2.1 Table overview
Quests
Money
Valor
Lesser charms
Time
Time efficiency
Archeology
1
5
勇气点数
1
次级好运护符
7
Bad
Dominance Offensive
5*
5
勇气点数
0
次级好运护符
9
Good
Golden Lotus
5*
5
勇气点数
0
次级好运护符
7
Good
Kirin Tor Offensive (PvE)
Sunreaver Onslaught (PvE)
12
0
勇气点数
0
次级好运护符
33
Bad
Kirin Tor Offensive (PvP)
Sunreaver Onslaught (PvP)
8
0
勇气点数
**
9
次级好运护符
11
Good
Operation: Shieldwall
5*
5
勇气点数
0
次级好运护符
9
Good
Order of the Cloud Serpent
3*
5
勇气点数
3
次级好运护符
4+
Bad
Shado-Pan
5
5
勇气点数
0
次级好运护符
11
Average
The Anglers
3*
5
勇气点数
3
次级好运护符
7
Bad
The August Celestials
(Temple of the White Tiger)
5
5
勇气点数
0
次级好运护符
6
Good
The August Celestials
(Temple of the Jade Serpent)
4
0
勇气点数
8
次级好运护符
6
Good
The August Celestials
(Niuzao Temple)
4
0
勇气点数
8
次级好运护符
6
Good
The August Celestials
(Cradle of Chi-Ji)
4
0
勇气点数
8
次级好运护符
7
Good
The Klaxxi
8*
0
勇气点数
6
次级好运护符
15
Good
The Tillers
5
5
勇气点数
5
次级好运护符
8
Average
Work Orders
2
0
勇气点数
2
次级好运护符
3+
Bad
* Please see the corresponding faction tab in the previous chapter for further info.
** Kirin Tor Offensive (PvP) dailies reward 5
0
instead of Valor.
3. Optimal route
Based on the above-presented data, everyone can create the optimal route considering his/her individual preferences. For general purposes, however, here are some ideas that you may find useful or inspiring:
If you only care for 0
次级好运护符
for your weekly
战火徽记
/
战火徽记
, the fastest and most efficient way is as following:
0. (Start in the Shrine of Seven Stars)
1. Fly to Setting Sun Garrison (0:55)
2. Do The Golden Lotus dailies (7:00)
3. Fly to Klaxxi'Vess (0:45)
4. Do The Klaxxi dailies (15:00)
5. Fly to the Isle of Thunder (1:23)
6. Do Kirin Tor Offensive / Sunreaver Onslaught (PvP) dailies (11:00)
7. Hearthstone back (0:10)
Overview:
Total money reward:
Total valor reward: 5
勇气点数
Total honor/conquest reward: 5
0
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 5
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 37 minutes
Comment: As the drop rate of Lesser Charms of Good Fortune is pretty high, you have good chances to get the last five charms by looting the mobs. If this is not your case, you can always get the last few Lesser charms with any other daily of your choice, killing a rare on the Isle of Thunder, pet battles, etc.
If you are mainly after 0
次级好运护符
, but also want to get some Valor for your weekly cap, the most effective way is probably doing the following route two times per week:
0. (Start in the Shrine of Seven Stars)
1. Fly to Setting Sun Garrison (0:55)
2. Do The Golden Lotus dailies (7:00)
3. Fly to Klaxxi'Vess (0:45)
4. Do The Klaxxi dailies (15:00)
5. Hearthstone back (0:10)
Overview:
Total money reward:
Total valor reward: 0
勇气点数
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 2
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 48 minutes
The optimal route is different for Alliance and Horde:
Alliance
0. (Start in the Shrine of Seven Stars)
1. Fly to Setting Sun Garrison (0:55)
2. Do The Golden Lotus dailies (7:00)
3. Fly to Klaxxi'Vess (0:45)
4. Do The Klaxxi dailies (15:00)
5. Hearthstone back (0:10)
7. Fly to Halfhill (0:45)
8. The Tillers dailies (8:00)
9. Fly to Lion's Landing (1:10)
10. Do Operation: Shieldwall dailies (9:00)
11. Hearthstone back (0:10)
Overview:
Total money reward:
Total valor reward: 5
勇气点数
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 1
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 43 minutes
Horde
0. (Start in the Shrine of Two Moons)
1. Fly to Setting Sun Garrison (0:55)
2. Do The Golden Lotus dailies (7:00)
3. Fly to Klaxxi'Vess (0:45)
4. Do The Klaxxi dailies (15:00)
5. Fly to Domination Point (1:10)
6. Do Dominance Offensive dailies (9:00)
7. Fly to Halfhill (1:50)
8. Do The Tillers dailies (8:00)
9. Hearthstone back (0:10)
Overview:
Total money reward:
Total valor reward: 5
勇气点数
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 1
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 44 minutes
Note: the above-mentioned strategies assume that your Hearthstone is set to Shrine of Seven Stars and that you can benefit from
急速炉石
.
Note II.: you should also add The August Celestials dailies hub into your route, depending on which hub is running that day.
The optimal route for gold farming may look like this:
0. (Start in the Shrine of Seven Stars)
1. Fly to Setting Sun Garrison (0:55)
2. Do The Golden Lotus dailies (7:00)
3. Fly to Shado-Pan Garrison (1:10)
4. Do Shado-Pan dailies (11:00)
5. Go to the Isle of Thunder (0:13)
6. Do Kirin Tor Offensive / Sunreaver Onslaught (PvP) dailies (11:00)
7. Fly to the Klaxxi'Vess (1:23)
8. Do The Klaxxi dailies (15:00)
9. Hearthstone back (0:10)
10. Fly to Halfhill (0:45)
11. Do The Tillers dailies (8:00)
12. Fly to Work Orders (0:05)
13. Do Work Orders dailies (3:00) - OR you can plant any other seeds that bring you more money (e.g.
欢歌铃种子
)
14. Fly to Lion's Landing (1:10) / Domination Point (1:50)
15. Do the Operation: Shieldwall / Dominance Offensive dailies (9:00)
16. Hearthstone back (0:10)
Overview:
Total money reward:
Total valor reward: 0
勇气点数
Total honor/conquest reward: 5
0
Total Lesser Charm of Good Fortune reward: 2
次级好运护符
Time needed to complete (approximately): 71 minutes
Note I.: the above-mentioned strategies assume that your Hearthstone is set to Shrine of Seven Stars and that you can benefit from
急速炉石
.
Note II.: you should also add The August Celestials dailies hub into your route, depending on which hub is running that day.
Note III.: if you prefer to loot the corpses while doing dailies, you will be slower, but also will earn some additional gold by selling the loot to vendors and/or Auction House.
4. Credits
List of all resources I used to gather all the information for this guide:
World of Warcraft sites:
1.
Wowhead
2.
Wowpedia
3.
Icy Veins
Other guides and comments on Wowhead:
4.
Mists of Pandaria - Faction Dailies
by Calesta
5.
Guide Writing for Dummies
by SquireKel
6.
Inspiration for this guide
by Tenkich
7.
Shado-pan dailies tip
by Philthee
8.
Gold farming tip
by Evilbane
5. Update history
May 30th, 2013:
- Gold route section updated
- added some info about the weekly quest
战场:贫瘠之地
/
into Valor route section
- added an Update history chapter
September 11th, 2013:
- all guide redesigned and updated for patch 5.4
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评论
评论来自
Saruya
Great guide :D
评论来自
Alahuakbar
Awesome guide! Great information and organization! This will really help me when I'm trying to get some lesser charms on my alts, thanks so much! :D
评论来自
hedetet
Nice guilde, thank you.
评论来自
Werich
Thank you very much guys.
I must say it took me lots of time to gather all the data and put it into easily readable guide (much more than I estimated in the beginning :-) so I am very happy it is helpful for you.
评论来自
bigredjake
Thanks so much for this guide, I'm going to share it with guildies who hate dailies but need those charms. Much appreciated!
评论来自
1123300
This is a truly brilliant guide!
Thank you so much, will really be useful for alts for the rest of the expansion.
My ONLY comment on how to improve it - if someone is looking to streamline their gold income through dailies, completing the Work Orders isn't an ideal recommendation, admittedly they're the only way to actively make gold DIRECTLY from the farm, but most players will make FAR more money growing one of the special seeds and AH'ing the resulting produce (or growing harmonies and trading..) for no extra effort.
评论来自
MakMakTuralyon
Excellent guide. Will need updating for 5.4 though, with the Golden Lotus dailies not being available.
评论来自
Zoeteklem
I am wondering how this guide now looks with the new changes from 5.4?
-Some of the dailies have changed around.
I see you changed them...
-Grinding rep on
永恒岛
gives a lot of
次级好运护符
Great guide though, thanks a lot!
评论来自
Gant
-Grinding rep on
Timeless
Isle gives a lot of
Lesser Charm of Good Fortune
Indeed, i got over 300 now and counting.
评论来自
OloPower
Excellent guide mate, just excellent
评论来自
thetallest
Good guide, but I can't recommend the Golden Lotus dailies. Two of the quests (the one that takes you to the hall of statues and the rolling one) are the MOST ANNOYING AND FRUSTRATING QUESTS. Totally not worth the time it takes.
评论来自
410187
Excellent guide. Made my day when I found it.
评论来自
1318592
Great Guide. Could I make a suggestion?
When you come to do the Kirin Tor Offensive / Sunreaver Onslaught (PvP) dailies and you want to potentially earn more gold this is what you should do.
If you find
雷神宫殿钥匙
in a
魔法藏品
or
夺日者奖品
and you should proceed to do the Bleak Hallow and speak to Taoshi to queue for the scenario Troves of the Thunder King. I strongly recommend that you follow this guide from youtube.
/watch?v=Kr2eHtlLY3I
This Video shows you how to collect the maximum
金色宝箱
possible to get
陪葬品钥匙
. Once the timer has ran out inside the scenario. With the Burial Keys you have collected you can open
雷神的陪葬品
to maximise gold.
Also killing rare elites on the Isle of Thunder can also drop
雷神宫殿钥匙
for more Trove runs.
Give this a try and see your daily gold jump up. =]
评论来自
StrawHatZachary
Great guide. If you have good gear from Timeless, you can knock these out in even less time, plus the accommodations that boost reputation gain on your account speed up the process once you hit revered on at least one character. I managed to get exalted with all these guys in about a week and a half.
评论来自
Delyana
I like the way this guide is put together. Very simple and easy to understand. Also very accurate.
Thank you!
评论来自
mageranger13
Don't forget to hit the Timeless Isle afterward, not for the Emperor Daily, but for the Lore Question Daily. All you do is answer a question about WoW Lore and you get 45 gold/day....easy money and incredibly fast to get. PLUS you get to learn more about lore lol if you don't know the answer and get it wrong, the next time she asked that question choose a different one, after 4 times you are bound to get the right one. Learn from it for next time, or write it on a cheat sheet and hang it above your pc.
评论来自
SpareSimian
强化沙漏
(weekly) awards 20g, 200 valor and 1000 Timeless Coins for finding 50 Epoch Stones.
迷雾行者之道
(daily) offers 25g, 50 valor, and 1000 Timeless Coins for killing 20 elites on the Timeless Isle.
Excellent ways to start to reach the weekly valor cap when doing
勇气的试炼
for the legendary cloak quest chain.
评论来自
Zugetz
This guide is either badly out-of-date or incomplete. I went to several of the locations mentioned in this guide, like Niuzao and Temple of the White Tiger and could not find ANY dailies there. So, either the dailies were removed in one of the patches, or there are pre-quests you have to do to unlock the dailies that this guide does not mention. All-in-all, I found this guide useless.
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