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评论来自
Toryne
Lol good luck with this. Oddly enough i pulled this off literally last night. First time in 2 years have i ever seen it done. incredibly rare to see happen post 60 however have heard it being done in the 59's
评论来自
11618
The difficulty with this one in my experience is not with keeping your own assets, but with getting all four towers before the enemy's reinforcement count hits zero. Not requiring the last two towers, or only one of them, would be a welcome change.
评论来自
233726
We managed to do that achievement today with a group of ~20 people using preform AB enabler.
My suggestions :
6-7 people including a couple healers rush the 2 Dun Baldar towers and wait 5 minutes for them to be destroyed.
The other players make sure Galvagar stay alive and should be enough to block alliance from capturing any tower.
DON'T kill Balinda ever or the alliance will run out of points before you can destroy the 4 towers.
Once the 2 north towers are down , the 6-7 people go suicide in Vandar room or recall back to the base.
Then focus on the 2 remaining towers while keeping yours alive.
Make sure
none of your towers are under attack
when you win or you won't recieve the achievement.
The safest way is to keep at least 2/3 players in every horde towers once you destroyed the alliance ones and then wait for the win.
评论来自
219351
This achievement basically means your raid cant kill balinda/galv or the other team will run out of reinforcements,unless the other team is at a server player disadvantage
评论来自
VaughulEU
I just did this Achievement with a Premade.
Setup :
Group 1-6 : Just random
Group 7-8 : Rogue + Druids
Tactic :
Group 1-6 : Defend galv in the first minutes of the game. After that split up ( Group 1-2 hang between IB tower and IB gy, Group 3-4 stay at galv, Group 5-6 recap FW and other towers )
Group 7 : First grab IW bunker, stay there till its destroyed. After that go DB South Bunker
Group 8 : Frist grab SH bunker, stay there till its destroyed. After that go DB North Bunker
We did it in one try.
This tactic is for the
HORDE.
Vaughul - Al'Akir EU
评论来自
24066
Got this while trying to get Little Helper - must have joined the right group!
评论来自
Marimalino
Very hard to get you must have a good group and have good tacts...
评论来自
195691
Just now we I almost did it when the raid didnt want to w8 for N/S Dun Baldar bunkers to be owned, instead they went to vanndar and killed him LITERALLY 3 second beforre the cap of both bunkers.....
评论来自
196570
I got this in my second AV ever. Before this, horde's last victory was in 2008, or so at least people told me.
评论来自
Cotytto
Somehow managed to get this achievement on my DK.Pure PuG AV.Hell I didn't even know we were going for it.
We just sort of rolled over the Alliance and continued to stomp them over and over every time we met them.Of course, we usually used to win when numbers were even.Now with games not starting until 40 on both sides, I think a lot more Horde on my battlgroup will be getting this.
Pretty nifty
评论来自
Octinomos
This Achievement is somewhat strange.
I have been playing an AV game that took quite a long time to complete and when it ended for reinforcements victory I saw one of my raidmates getting it.
My guess would be this one behaves like time completion achievements for others battleground, meaning it only considers if you win AFTER you've joined and the towers and the captains have already been killed.
Would really like to know or if anybody can hand out some help on this, since I was quite disappointed by seeing it happen.
评论来自
Stonehearth
This seems to have changed. Either it's bugged or intentional, but this achievement seems to be being awarded if you only have Galvangar alive, regardless of if you have destroyed all their towers or you own all of yours. Had this awarded to people with 2 of their towers still alive, 2 of our bunkers burned and only Galvangar alive.
评论来自
240801
I strongly recommend everyone who wants to do it-do it before you reach level 85.Since its very hard to kill Captains,simply just make sure you keep those towers up. Good luck :)
评论来自
Bartuck
I met all the criteria for this achievement yesterday. We won the Alterac Valley by killing Vanndar, Galvangar was alive, North- and Southbunker were tapped, Stonehearth and Icewing destroyed. Yet I didn't get the achievement. I demand justice. I wrote a ticket and I'm going to make a drama about it. I have 150 AV wins now.
评论来自
Arlor
BY FAR the hardest part of this achievement is finding 39 other people willing to do it right.
Honestly I wish Blizzard would remove this from the meta, if they're not going to provide a way to queue a premade 40-member group. On a few occasions in a random BG we've been close enough to get this if people would hold off on killing the other side for a minute or so (so as not to run out of reinforcements before destroying a final tower or two), and nobody listens. In fact they mock me for caring about it.
I've seen several people get this achievement undeservedly in non-qualifying matches. It makes me wonder what proportion of people who have it got it fairly.
评论来自
Esploratore
this is imposible with random players in 85 lvl
Not really; after a few days of attempts I queued with a friend of mine today (38 people random), we got a fail-alliance group (saying this because we managed to beat them even where we were outnumbered) and a good horde group, for once willing to listen, also.
Usual tactic, defended at galvangar at start; after a few alliance wipes, 1-2 of us always kept an eye on galvangar while a few groups were going to take back our towers\graveyards; a few went north to take bunkers and defended them till actually we got them.
They tried to come again to galvangar when they had lost all of their towers, so we formed a big group and wiped them again; we had like 520 reinforcements when alliance had around 100, we were temped to go kill balinda, but feared they might have killed galvangar fast (not even 4 millions hp), so we didn't risk, and kept farming them in the field of strife.
They probably tried to ruin our achievement, assaulting Tower Point when they had around 15 reinforcements, because if we hadn't defended it before they reached 0, we'd have failed.
The game ended around 500 to 0 reinforcements, so the answer is: "Yes, this achievement is still possible at 85 in random groups, just need the right circumstances and a few people reporting incoming assaults".
评论来自
ISeeVoices
Been farming AV for weeks now. Had to complete 100 victories and now this is the only achivement I'm missing for Battlemaster. It is so frustrating to que AV again and again and see people not even trying to get it just saying "lose fast please"
评论来自
Tatahe
I get this achievment yesterday with a 27 or 28 man premade from US-Ragnaros with the addon "Preform AV Enabler"
Who we do this:
At start:
1) Send 15 to defend Glav.
2) Send 4 dps (2 rogues 2 ferals) to defend West tower in our base.
3) Send 1 tank and 1 healer to defend East tower in our base.
4) Send 6 people with all the non-premade guys to cap DBN an DBS.
Before defend Galv we let 3 dps and 2 healers with Glav and send 5 (2 healers 1 tank) to Bloodice and 5 (2 healer 1 tank) to Point Tower and defend it (we have to backcap Point toweer and that was the hardest part cause there was like 12 allys there).
When left around 1.5 minutes to cap DBN and DBS we cap all gys in the middle and south part, so allys spawn in their start camp.
When we cap DBN abd DBS we send the 10 people who was in there to cap the 2 missing towers (one by one).
When we cap the 4 allys tower we send 1 dps and 1 healer to kill Ballinda and we have again 10 peoples in Glav and 5 in each base (Point Tower and Bloodice). Allys try to attack or Bloodice or Glav but we wipe they like 3 times.
When we kill Balind we left like 40 resources to win and just stay there defending towers and killing allys one by one.
Maybe if we have controlled both mines we just need to kill Ballinda to win.
评论来自
1044745
Just curious if anyone has tried to do this in MoP? Are premades of that size even still possible now with RBG in the game?
评论来自
moocow
The hardest part of this achievement is preventing the enemy from running out of reinforcements before you take all the towers. Don't kill Balinda, let them have mines, and don't kill any more than you have to.
评论来自
1041743
Saw the other faction get it twice. Which confirms that this can be done without premades. Still hope for some of us!
评论来自
vashtii
Got this achievement today. It probably helped that the Alliance team featured a 10-man multiboxer.
评论来自
Rysie
Just got this today - we didn't have ALL of the alliance towers, we still needed dun baldar north & south towers, but had galv up and none of our towers down. so the acheiv might need to be updated to just say "without losing any of ur towers or captains".
Just a thought.
评论来自
1142593
MOP Update for 5.3 (soon to be 5.4)
HORDE
Unfortunately the win ratio for Horde on Alterac Valley is extremely low given the sheer volume of Alliance premades that now play this particular BG so just winning is now an achievement. That being said, here is what you will face, make your plans accordingly.
- A paladin or DK will be running full speed straight for your frostwolf GY, you must have 1-2 people waiting for him or Alliance will cap it and will then spawn next to Drek making this achieve impossible.
- A major stand must be made to defend Galv at the onset. A good tactic here is to do the run-by in middle but turn the troops around and run in on Galv while Alliance are still attacking him, otherwise you will have to take out 35 of the 40 players since they are all headed in this direction already.
- After the above two things are accounted for the main group must kill Balinda and work up the map quickly, likely going all in extremely early. This will require most of the troops to be up north with just a handful of defenders recapping bases.
The GOOD news is that Alliance premades often leave Alliance players confused or indifferent when their regular tactic doesn't work. If you can break the plan early, and stick to your plan, premades can be beaten in this 40 man bg.
Alliance
This is a much easier achievement for Alliance given current play. Join a premade and you're most likely going to get this achievement just by playing. Tactics are similar but should be much easier to perform
- Make a stand for Balinda at the onset but wait for Horde to be attacking her before coming in behind them, many will not break off their attack on Balinda and so can be easily cleaned up. If they SEE many Alliance waiting at Balinda they will bring more troops, stand on the west side of the keep, outside, and wait for the 15-20 who will blindly rush in.
- A small recap team will do just fine, Horde is notorious for capping and then running off. I rarely see more than 2-3 protecting any tower/bunker.
Hope this helps, I thought this needed updating because the previous tactics are years old.
评论来自
nikimihaylov
Guys, any suggestions on how to do this achievement 5.4+++?
I've played a lot of games, but most of the time we (horde) loose on our battlegroup.
Anyway without the option for AV premades, alliance is just zerging Galvangar and this achievement starts to look impossible for me? :(
评论来自
ady292
Got this on my lvl 70 Alliance char back in 2008, no premade. I also managed to get it today, 8 years later, on my lvl 100 Horde char, still no premade. I think we got really lucky, considering that Horde loses most of AV's. I think we just had people willing to cooperate at the start. I suggested to have at least 10 people on each tower, and surprisingly people followed this. We skipped Balinda at the start and killed her after the towers. Really lucky tho!
Armory:
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/jaedenar/Tuskerini/achievement#95:14801:a873
Screenshot:
http://imgur.com/lifoY9T
(LOL at the guy who got this on his first AV win)
评论来自
Danixp
I advise everyone to try going for this achievement while the game is on the Pre-Expansion Patch. Right now guards are lvl109 while we are still lvl100. The graveyard guards can kill any players easily, while the tower's crossbow equipped guards are bringing down your hp by 15-20%/shot. The bosses Galvagar, Balinda. Vandar Stormpike, Drek'thar are much stronger. Adding all this together, you can guess that defending the objectives is much easier, and usually there is no "go straight for the boss" games.
评论来自
Gyrospark
Seems like the quest is bugged as of BfA prepatch (and I think onwards since they didnt fix it in the first few sets of AV bugs).
Bugged in the sense that the achievement can be randomly gotten without meeting the criteria of it (as long as you win). I've seen people get it from 10-20 wins on average, I got mine after 50 wins.
You will notice every once in a while from a winning game that some people in your raid group get this achievement, you just have to be lucky to be one of these people.
评论来自
Zurgzurg
I'm not sure if its bugged as the last comment mentioned but it does seem the requirements have changed slightly.
I just achieved this in a pug group last night. We didn't take down every alliance tower (only 2) but we did not lose any of our towers.
We win the game by the alliances resources hitting "o" and this achievement popped for a quite a few people.
Hopefully this is how the achievement is suppose to work now as it makes it a lot easier since typically once one side plays any defense the games
tend to turtle and its hard to push all the way to end.
Now if my battlegroup could only win this one more then 25% of the time I could get the AV achievements wrapped up. :) Happy Hunting!
评论来自
KalboJGRA
What's up with this? We won the battleground and I saw it pop for only one player. Wouldn't it make sense that if we're all part of the same group it would pop for all of us? Anyone knows why only one player got it? Since it's a battleground wide achievement not a personal one?
评论来自
aeroverra
So I got this on one of my horde characters. We lost one tower in the final few minutes but somehow I still managed to get the achievement. I was the only one too which was kinda odd.
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